244: Seeing other perspectives, with compassion (Stephanie Lepp & Buster Benson)

November 25, 2019

This episode features a pair of interviews on a similar topic: First, Stephanie Lepp (host of the “Reckonings Podcast”) discusses what she’s learned from interviewing people who had a serious change of heart, or “reckoning,” including a former Neo-nazi and a former sex offender. What causes a reckoning?

Second, Buster Benson (author of “Why Are We Yelling? The Art of Productive Disagreement”) shares his tips for coming away from a disagreement feeling more alive — for example, don’t just focus on the literal arguments the other person is making; drill deeper. Buster and Julia debate whether there’s a downside to approaching disagreements emotionally, rather than intellectually.


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